Comments on: From Packet Exchanges to Application Exchanges http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/ Do it faster. Do it better. Do it in private -- blog style. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:52:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: augustz http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-128 augustz Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:50:29 +0000 http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-128 The issue with Softlayers private network is that at least the last time I looked at it it was a single provider. Who wants to build a mission critical system that can only connect to their colo through a single provider? Be it routing flaps or connectivity cuts, that's just silly. Much better to put a VPN on the front facing side of your servers, then tunnel through to the backend if needed. Even adding just one other provider would go a long way. I should check, maybe one has been added. The issue with Softlayers private network is that at least the last time I looked at it it was a single provider. Who wants to build a mission critical system that can only connect to their colo through a single provider? Be it routing flaps or connectivity cuts, that’s just silly.

Much better to put a VPN on the front facing side of your servers, then tunnel through to the backend if needed.

Even adding just one other provider would go a long way. I should check, maybe one has been added.

]]> By: isabel wang's blog http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-123 isabel wang's blog Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:34:09 +0000 http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-123 <strong>People are not packets! I am so frustrated that SoftLayer doesn't seem to get it :(</strong> James Governor says open source software is social media: the communities that form around projects turn every component, every bug fix into a social object. Lance Crosby thinks Internet infrastructure can be social media too. He says SoftLayer's cust... People are not packets! I am so frustrated that SoftLayer doesn’t seem to get it :(

James Governor says open source software is social media: the communities that form around projects turn every component, every bug fix into a social object. Lance Crosby thinks Internet infrastructure can be social media too. He says SoftLayer’s cust…

]]> By: miron http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-122 miron Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:59:59 +0000 http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-122 I was quite interested in EC2 and S3 for awhile, but then I found that <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/06/0439245" rel="nofollow">Amazon is in the process of patenting S3</a>. Needless to say, we won't be implementing anything on EC2 or S3. 3Terra looks interesting. I was quite interested in EC2 and S3 for awhile, but then I found that Amazon is in the process of patenting S3. Needless to say, we won’t be implementing anything on EC2 or S3. 3Terra looks interesting.

]]> By: rackaid http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-120 rackaid Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:53:20 +0000 http://theinnerlayer.softlayer.com/2007/from-packet-exchanges-to-application-exchanges/#comment-120 To really capitalize on your network within a network, you have to conquer the last mile of connectivity problem. Unless you live in a major metro area, your possibilities for connectivity are highly limited. For example, here at our offices, we've two choices: Comcast or ATT. Sure there are lots of other players but in a few hops you are back to comcast or ATT. The quality and throughput is very poor. In NYC, Cogent will drop a 100Mbit fiber right into your office and connect it to their Multi-GigE metro loop. For example, we've a client that uses co-lo facilities at the DRT facility at 111 8th Ave in Manhattan. One reason for using that site is they may start distributing video via pay per view to other outlets. They would need a lot of bandwidth to take the video from their office and onto the distribution network. Using cogent, they can get 100's Mbit connectivity directly from their office to the datacenter. This would eliminate the need for them to send tapes/dvd's to a distribution center. I've a friend that owns two restaurants about a block from each other. Because his POS (point-of-sale but the other meaning is equally appropriate) equipment is stand-alone, he walks back and forth half-dozen times a night checking on operations and sales. I asked him, wouldn't it be better if he could be in his office or even at home, see what tables are full, see the revenues, see the stock levels at each restaurant. So when the bar at Foster's runs out of Grey Goose Vodka, he can quickly send a message to go get some from Miso. Transfer the inventory in the online system. The entire operation could be hosted at SL and linked up over VPN. The problem ... ATT and Comcast. Bandwidth and service issues would require you to have multiple providers on-site, which could quickly negate any productivity savings. To really capitalize on your network within a network, you have to conquer the last mile of connectivity problem. Unless you live in a major metro area, your possibilities for connectivity are highly limited. For example, here at our offices, we’ve two choices: Comcast or ATT. Sure there are lots of other players but in a few hops you are back to comcast or ATT. The quality and throughput is very poor.

In NYC, Cogent will drop a 100Mbit fiber right into your office and connect it to their Multi-GigE metro loop. For example, we’ve a client that uses co-lo facilities at the DRT facility at 111 8th Ave in Manhattan. One reason for using that site is they may start distributing video via pay per view to other outlets. They would need a lot of bandwidth to take the video from their office and onto the distribution network. Using cogent, they can get 100’s Mbit connectivity directly from their office to the datacenter. This would eliminate the need for them to send tapes/dvd’s to a distribution center.

I’ve a friend that owns two restaurants about a block from each other. Because his POS (point-of-sale but the other meaning is equally appropriate) equipment is stand-alone, he walks back and forth half-dozen times a night checking on operations and sales.

I asked him, wouldn’t it be better if he could be in his office or even at home, see what tables are full, see the revenues, see the stock levels at each restaurant. So when the bar at Foster’s runs out of Grey Goose Vodka, he can quickly send a message to go get some from Miso. Transfer the inventory in the online system. The entire operation could be hosted at SL and linked up over VPN. The problem … ATT and Comcast. Bandwidth and service issues would require you to have multiple providers on-site, which could quickly negate any productivity savings.

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